remay

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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 6:57:17 AM
And we have INDIVIDUALS modifiying their cars at home putting in 44 lithium batteries!!! (article posted a few days ago)
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Amplion

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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 2:10:55 AM
NO MORE GM FOR ME !!!!
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Night Owl

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:33:34 PM
Doesn't sound good at all.
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bwatchingu

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:20:15 PM
Exploding ObamaMobile battery
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sjf238

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 1:26:30 PM
Interesting.
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SycamoreISU

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 12:03:09 PM
Not that I was in the market for an electric car anyway . . . .
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AlfaAirbeds

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 11:23:39 AM
Agreed. Extreme tests need more extreme safety precautions.
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BuckyTJones

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 11:02:46 AM
I guess this justifies the meaning or use of a "Test Lab" Maybe they need to tighten up the precautions a little. Safety First.
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FunMyster

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 10:46:48 AM
Seems to be a long way from consumer friendly.
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schatzila

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:54:02 AM
Workman's comp time.
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WonderfulMI

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:53:34 AM
This is the actual headline from the article:
"Test Explodes Electric-Car Battery, Injuring General Motors Lab Worker A123 Systems' Lithium-Ion Battery Explodes During Car Maker's 'Extreme' Test."
Apparently they were testing the "Extreme Limit". Perhaps they should have had better safeguards when pushing tests to such limits.
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CapriceWagon

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Washington
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:16:26 AM
You've got to be careful when playing with batteries
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fracknsave

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:16:22 AM
Sure are making batteries powerful these days.
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jimgraham

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:01:12 AM
WSJ online sucks.
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Grizdad

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:54:27 AM
Ooops. It was Bush's fault...
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GetMaxCashBack

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:53:30 AM
I'm guessing we're NOT getting the whole picture here. I'm guessing this lab was specifically testing the limits of the batteries. They probably don't go anywhere near the limits with their production vehicles for two reasons: 1. Safety 2. Battery Life-span
I don't think this should scare people from electric car technology. After all, Lithium-ion batteries are safely used in a lot of real-world technologies like cell phones. It's all about finding the limits of how to use the technology safely.
[Edited by: GetMaxCashBack at 4/12/2012 10:58:04 AM EST]
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PatAZ

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:13:41 AM
Great add to buy a Volt.
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rbrk02

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:12:19 AM
Subscription only article, but, I have already read this one before.
Bottom line is this was a powerful explosion in a test lab. Article states that large windows were blown out and thick fortified doors were forced open.
There are still people comfortable with the idea of driving around with one of these in their vehicle. Not me.
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ifallsguy

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 8:01:46 AM
wait until the government says it was a planned test
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Nicoalbum

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:40:24 AM
Another genius in a bottle
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bicycle1966

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:34:39 AM
It's unfortunate and sad that an employee got hurt from this -- but the fact that the battery failed in the test isn't really that big of a deal.
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Yooperheart

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:34:16 AM
Sorry about the employee, but you have to test these things. Time will tell.
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Bernie516

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:18:54 AM
It's obvious that these cars/batteries were not properly safety tested and were rushed to get out on the market. Manufacturers were just seeing dollar signs. Slow down, make it right, make it safe and then maybe someone will buy it.
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MontanaMac

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:10:55 AM
Ouch. And this is far from the 'first' negative spin on GM's electric car efforts.
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batloverNM

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:09:18 AM
Name one product that was perfect the first time out. If you let a bad thing stop you you are never going to get anywhere.
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YaBassa

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:09:14 AM
A negative twist from the Wall Street Journal. Surprise surprise.
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derKraut

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:03:47 AM
"The explosion is the latest glitch in the auto industry's efforts to bring electric vehicles to market. GM's battery-powered Volt and Nissan Motor Co.'s Leaf had disappointing sales in their first year".
And it is only going to get worse from here on.
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chemist74

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 7:00:35 AM
Without knowing what they were doing to the battery during the test, this may not really mean much. Tersting sometimes involves pushing a product beyond the conditions it was designed to handle. (Testing to destruction.)
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Eugene_C

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:55:26 AM
This is the 4th post for this story. Please check the existing topics for crying out loud.
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Evilmaddog

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:50:11 AM
Ouch
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grandpadon28110

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:40:58 AM
Bad.
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drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:27:54 AM
Not good.
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lcleveland

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:22:45 AM
uh, oh
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humblepie

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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 6:17:09 AM
such stupidity
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FPLREP

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 5:49:33 AM
Working on or around batteries can be dangerous.
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