honda0105
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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 5:01:21 AM
Canadian crude (tar sand oils) is one of the dirtiest out there. And damages the most resources. Keep it in Canada.
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bell013
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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 5:12:10 AM
Old news.
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snappytom2
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Corpus Christi
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 8:23:19 PM
like another hole in the head.
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SmkyPlyr984
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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 3:00:31 PM
we got plenty of oil now they cant refine,,,whats more oil going to do if you cant refine it,,, that s why gas is so high now..
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SmkyPlyr984
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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:47:58 PM
once the pipe is in the ground away goes the jobs..
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SmkyPlyr984
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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:47:27 PM
if not whats the point,
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SmkyPlyr984
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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:47:08 PM
is it going to make gasoline cheaper ?
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91Hilux
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New Haven
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:55:13 PM
Ummm, so the lines going through Alberta to Washington and down the West Coast aren't there anymmore?
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mac007
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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:37:59 PM
This is all a lie! Pennsylvania has better access to Canadian oil than New Mexico, and PA's gas is higher.......
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JMW1942
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:06:46 PM
First off Obama only voted present his whole political life. He just wants to vacation and golf at our expense. He won't do anything to benefit the masses when his goal is to destroy capitalism and redistribute the wealth so we all are the same. Intelligent hard working people that actually produce wealth for him to give to the non producers will just give him the bird and quit. A day will come when we start over much as our founders did. Read your history and you will see 1/3 were revolutionary's, 1/3 Loyalist and 1/3 who could care less.
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klw1963
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:45:18 PM
Build the pipline already. Every state has given it a thumbs up! What's taking the President so long in making up his mind? Can anyone say radical enviromentalists.
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caddilac
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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:42:10 PM
I still say build the pipeline here in Canada, to both the east and west coasts.
Why should a Canadian company provide jobs for Americans when there are Canadians that need jobs????
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95Vette
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Missouri
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:40:31 PM
I am with cellsite... how long are they gonna kick around the keystone pipline.. Just Do It!
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Cellsite
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Appleton
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:37:15 PM
For cryin' out loud, build that dang pipeline already! We've had enough of the green-weenies crying and complaining.
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pitamon
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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:37:04 PM
We need to ship it east to refineries out here.
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deputydog082
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Detroit
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:35:49 PM
the pipelines will be used to export domestic gas and oil overseas and raise prices here
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silvereb
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Fort Wayne
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:35:24 PM
If we could get the government out of the
way the free market would take care of these issues!
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MrPony
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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:31:36 PM
It ain't gonna happen with Osama in office!!!
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rbutterw
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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:27:14 PM
Sounds reasonable
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Number43
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Lexington
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:27:07 PM
Gas prices are set by speculators not by supply and demand. Blame Wall street.
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slowpoke63
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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:26:10 PM
Use it instead of middle east oil.
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Number43
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Lexington
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:25:52 PM
always better to buy from Canada than Saudi Arabia.
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Grismer
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Kitchener-Waterloo
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:21:44 PM
This oil is currently regarded as more detrimental than beneficial. However, trying to change this mind set can do no harm.
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bobcatfan
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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:21:10 PM
Ok.
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No1ConMan
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Memphis
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:19:01 PM
We would much rather see it go to China according to Chairman Barack!
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Hugo40
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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:18:25 PM
You are going to pay more in the larger cities.
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Doomsday64
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Austin
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:16:19 PM
do it
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Tralp
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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:15:14 PM
ok
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NemoIL
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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:14:31 PM
Keystone will never be built as long as Obama is in office.
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joezIN
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Gary
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:10:19 PM
can't refine though, as they say.....
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gasman50
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Portland
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:10:05 PM
Time will tell
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npt
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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:09:14 PM
Build it with caution, keep an eye on environmental impact.
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FieroGT
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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:06:25 PM
How about building a 1/2 Keystone that comes as far as MN. That way at least we might be able to get lower pump prices!
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GManCo
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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:06:11 PM
It doesn't take intelligence to understand that concept.
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masker5900
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Mobile
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:05:19 PM
Hmm cheaper oil equals cheaper gas. Imagine that
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greenfog
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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:05:11 PM
and saga of the pipelines goes on, tune in next week for the latest.
[Edited by: greenfog at 2/22/2013 2:05:39 PM EST]
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LongPlay
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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:04:32 PM
We need all of the North American crude that we can get. Higher production will reduce prices.
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RQCraig
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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:02:54 PM
Old
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pecos
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Columbus
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:00:41 PM
Ain't that the truth.
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PoyenGasHog
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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:58:41 AM
Domestic is the way to go!
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mrreferee
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Savannah
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:49:14 AM
It is need to help lower cost to othe end used. Prices in the north are lower because of the access to the lower priced Canadian oil
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snell snail
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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:48:38 AM
....please...it can't be this simple......
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firechief
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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:47:31 AM
if you build it they will come
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mahkokhan
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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:46:44 AM
keep our supply domestic, and our manufacturing and research as well!
[Edited by: mahkokhan at 2/22/2013 1:47:13 PM EST]
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pagenutt
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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:43:24 AM
ok
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goinwgas
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Oregon
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:43:12 AM
old news
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idigau22
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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:40:09 AM
Yet another Keystone pipeline article!! Will they never end, Ever!!!!!
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Double_Golden
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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:39:14 AM
just shipped them to China, they will happy to buy them...
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gvan
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Chicago
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:36:30 AM
"It should be refined in Canada, then sell at the proper price"
Good idea except it's not practical........
Some people suggest refining the oil in Canada for export. It might be a good idea in theory, but it’s not really practical. Once refined, there will be over 20 products out of it. Are we going to build 20 plus pipelines or send them by trucks to the US and how is it shipped overseas? At 900,000 barrels a day, that’s over 4,000 truck loads a day.
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srchr
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San Jose
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 11:34:05 AM
forget it; we voted against oil and gas in the last election
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